Green fiscal policy in an empirical UK E-SFC model
Critical Discussion of George & Dafermos (2025)
Mickael Clévenot
Université de Bourgogne
Séminaire Chaire Énergie et Prospérité - 30 septembre 2025
A Notable Contribution
- First empirical E-SFC model for country-specific climate policy analysis
- Laudable calibration effort on UK national accounting data
- SFC methodology well-suited for environmental macroeconomics:
- Stock-flow consistency for ecological flows
- Avoids Walrasian equilibrium constraints
- Integrates finance and endogenous money
- Captures macroeconomic diffusion between institutional sectors
The Fundamental Epistemological Paradox
"The model is heterodox because we use heterodox modeling"
Heterodox Tool
- Endogenous money creation
- Disequilibrium dynamics
- Financial integration
- Quantity adjustments
Orthodox Usage
- Transition through prices
- Representative agents
- OBR baseline calibration
- Structural continuity
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Critical Blind Spots
- Distributional effects absent:
- No agent-based modeling → no fine-grained distributive impacts
- Homogeneous households → regressive effects of carbon tax invisible
- No social classes → inequality dynamics ignored
- Political acceptability ignored:
- Popular resistance to green policies (Yellow Vests)
- Electoral cycles vs. transition temporalities
- Coalition building and territorial conflicts
Environmental Modeling: Cost vs. Thresholds
Weak Sustainability (Nordhaus)
- 4°C warming = 4% GDP loss
- Natural ↔ Physical capital substitution
- Optimal carbon price trajectory
- Green growth through decoupling
Strong Sustainability
- Tipping points & fat-tailed risks
- Strict complementarity
- Planetary boundaries framework
- Decoupling debunked (Parrique et al. 2019)
Critical question: Does the model reproduce weak sustainability assumptions despite claiming heterodox methodology?
Market Limits & Structural Blindness
- Cannibalization effect identified but not questioned:
- "Lower marginal-cost electricity production reduces power sector income"
- Model captures market failure but treats it as technical constraint
- No questioning of market framework creating the problem
- Degrowth disclaimer problematic:
- "Carbon pricing is not a degrowth policy, lower activity is a side effect"
- Artificial distinction in ecological constraint context
- Why not embrace activity reduction as objective?
- Expectation structure inconsistency:
- Claims non-rational expectations (SFC strength)
- But behavioral equations don't reflect this specificity
Methodological Questions
- Calibration bias: OBR/NESO baseline reproduces current policy limitations
- Conservative legitimization: Model presents insufficient policies as "realistic"
- Behavioral parameters: How are green investment equations estimated when "past doesn't predict future"?
- Robustness: Sensitivity tests for key environmental parameters?
Key Questions for Discussion
- Market framework contradictions:
- Model identifies cannibalization effect but doesn't question market logic
- Why treat systemic market failure as technical constraint?
- Alternative institutional frameworks for renewable transition?
- Methodological coherence:
- How to reconcile SFC non-rational expectations with behavioral equations?
- Why avoid degrowth framing when activity reduction may be necessary?
- Building on existing SFC literature:
- Addressing "climate Minsky moments" (Dafermos & Nikolaidi 2019)
- Integration of political variables (Van Eynde et al. 2024)
- Beyond OBR baseline conservatism toward transformative scenarios
Toward Integrated Environmental Modeling
"None of the individual scenarios achieve the UK's target by 2035. Even when all policies are applied together, the targets are not met."
- Valuable E-SFC technical progress, but environmental challenges require integrated approach
- Methodological pathway forward:
- SFC-environmental + ABM (social/political heterogeneity) + I-O matrices
- Model policy acceptability alongside economic impacts
- Enable non-market coordination mechanisms (planning, constraints)
- Fundamental perspective shift needed:
- From policy optimization to transformation pathways
- Start with planetary boundaries, work backwards to compatible scenarios
- Question growth paradigm rather than optimize within it
Thank you for your attention
Proposed Modular Architecture
Modular approach: Each block feeds into and receives feedback from the SFC core, within planetary boundary constraints
Key References: E-SFC Environmental Modeling
- Foundations:
- Godley, W. & Lavoie, M. (2007). Monetary Economics. Palgrave Macmillan.
- Dafermos, Y. & Nikolaidi, M. (2019). Fiscal Policy and Ecological Sustainability. Ecological Economics, 178.
- Dafermos, Y., Nikolaidi, M. & Galanis, G. (2017). A stock-flow-fund ecological macroeconomic model. Ecological Economics, 131.
- Intersectoral Integration:
- Berg, M., Hartley, B. & Richters, O. (2015). A stock-flow consistent input–output model. New Journal of Physics, 17.
- Carnevali, E. et al. (2021). Cross-border financial flows and global warming in a two-area ecological SFC model. Socio-Economic Planning Sciences, 75.
Key References: Political Economy & Acceptability
- Political Acceptability:
- Gatti, D. & Vauday, J. (2024). AI Diffusion, Disasters, Environmental and Social Change. FAERE Conference.
- Gatti, D. & Vauday, J. (2023). Environmental transition through social change and lobbying by citizens. FAERE Conference.
- Gatti, D., Del Lo, G. & Serranito, F. (2023). Determinants of environmental policy stringency in European countries. INFER Conference.
- Sustainability Paradigms:
- Parrique, T. et al. (2019). Decoupling debunked: Evidence against green growth. European Environmental Bureau.
- Raworth, K. (2017). Doughnut Economics. Random House.
- Clévenot, M. & Funalot, P. (2025). Environmental Sustainability, Macroeconomic Stabilization and Climate Finance. Chapter 23.
Key References: Planetary Boundaries & Backcasting
- Planetary Boundaries Framework:
- Rockström, J. et al. (2015). Planetary boundaries: Guiding human development on a changing planet. Science, 347(6223).
- Rockström, J. et al. (2025). Earth beyond six of nine planetary boundaries. Science Advances.
- Backcasting Methodology:
- Svenfelt, Å. et al. (2014). Low-carbon futures and sustainable lifestyles: A backcasting scenario approach. Futures, 58.
- Carabias, V. et al. (2012). Backcasting scenarios for Finland 2050 of low emissions. Foresight, 14(4).
- Critical Perspectives:
- Weitzman, M.L. (2009). On Modeling and Interpreting the Economics of Catastrophic Climate Change. Review of Economics and Statistics, 91(1).